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support gay marriage but ralph reed this is a fundamental principle for our party. what do you do? >> soul-searching in the party right now. but to joel's point earlier, this is very much a generational divide. if you look at evangelical millennials, 64% of evangelical million ennials. if you look at republican million ennials, at 58% support for same-sex marriage. america is changing. >> the number i'm always struck by, "washington post" poll, 1849 self-identified republicans. 53%. >> remarkable, generational shift. >> going forward, hillary clinton last week, she had been one of the last -- i don't want to say hold-outs but high-profile people to switch. is this a position you must have to be a serious contender going forward in democratic party politics? you must support gay marriage? >> i think this is a position that anybody running for public office is going to have to have. >> republicans included. >> absolutely. look, the country has changed. this is a position in every demographic group. the numbers you just cited, their views have changed on this over the last ten years. they hav
on southwest airlines. >> wasn't it weird yesterday they had ralph reed and gary bauer out there talking about gay marriage. it was like just watching "meet the press" in the 1980s you know? there's nobody who is willing to come out. >> stephanie: who would not want to [ bleep ] gary bower frankly? >> gary bower ralph reed -- come on, ya know. >> stephanie: it has been previously speculated he might like sex with the dead. [ buzzer ] we have no information. only opposite sex. >> he looks like peter laurie. >> ralph reed looks like he's been preserved in formaldehyde. >> yes. so the two of them together are like a -- waiting to happen. >> stephanie: they do seem like dinosaurs. i was reading an article this weekend about somebody from one of the families, they devote their whole life to this to stopping other people from loving each other. it is really kind of -- you just kind of go really? is there another hobby you could get into? >> especially that lady from nam. >> and again, i love the family research council. >> you're on your mailing list. >> i'm not on your mailing list. i'm on their pr
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